Then they realize how much money they made at their hometown, specifically around here, doesn't go too far in many parts of the state. I don’t mind them, it was a nice place to visit. California is a place unlike any other on the Globe. I'm guessing they say those things because they don't want to get shit from people who assume that because they're from California, they'll "bring the policies that made them leave with them." Only one small part of CA was having all three. Press J to jump to the feed. I will say that it is nice to be able to be conservative some places. But that’s down 4.2% in a year and a five-year low. Can confirm. Shit's expensive. There are a few comments here expressing that concern about ex-Californians so I think these people are just awkwardly trying to not immediately be hated simply for being from CA. Only the numbers for Texas, Florida, and New York came close, with 462,000, 458,000 and 470,000, respectively. In MA, the only people in that social class I've seen do that are in the city of Boston, where many schools aren't that great. She told me that kids who moved from California make up a disproportionate amount of the kids she has to help. Stupid emmision laws. I can tell you as a California resident , that they are all true :/. I get it. 1 of 2 The California State flag flies beside a sign for its sister city Split outside City Hall, in Los Angeles, California on January 27, 2017. I did some brief curoicity research, and a 1 bedroom apartment near but not in San Francisco is several hundred dollars more a month than the mortgage payments on my 3 bedroom house here. Then again we are the most populous state in the union, so the sheer numbers might be the case. This isn't supposed to be a 'Shit on California' thread and such. You can't blame Californians for moving to Arizona. And native Californians also only make up roughly 50% of California’s population due to the huge influx of people from other states. ... Brazil, China, etc. How do we know? To those who complain about Californians moving to their state and "ruining" it. Then begin voting for raising taxes. Like the Petersons, the Scatmans are not just eyeing Texas, but also Arkansas, Louisiana, Arizona, Florida, Mississippi, and North Dakota —i.e. The state, which experienced net in-migration of 3.3 million people during the 1990s, now is losing people to other states. It boasts perhaps the greatest natural resources of any state along with shining high-tech industries. The Californians are coming, Idaho. Oh, and it also was ranked dead last for every other year that the survey has been conducted. On the other hand, many Californians blame the legislature. The public service and other unions own California. If that doesn’t make you see why it’s a pretty bad state to live then idk what would. The latest California registration statistics show Democrats widening their lead over Republicans, 44.6 percent to 31.1 percent, with 20 percent "decline to state" and 4.4 percent scattered among other Parties. When you have 50 million people, a lot of them are going to move out at some point, it doesn't say anything other than the fact that the US is a very mobile country. After keeping my head down for years being surrounded by liberal academia it is nice to be around at least a few like minded folks. California has a pretty high retention rate. Well for starters they don’t know how to drive. California is a pretty unique ecosystem after all and pretty different from the culture of other states. I don’t hate Californians at all, but the state itself is a place I would never move to. It might also be because Cali is the test chamber/guinea pig for passing the more hard left state laws and a lot of other states with different political climates might not like that too much? Honestly, people who bitch about Californians in their state are the kind of people who would bitch about anything. Am Californian. I just find it very interesting. I wouldn’t ever live there though, it’s expensive as shite. My state is beautiful, but damn a lot of the people there suck. My aunt is a teacher in DFW, and she works on a task-force that helps under-performing kids catch up to grade level. I have read and sensed that Coloradoans dislike Californians. But more often than not, I hear people complaining about “Californians” moving to their state just to find out that they are actually talking about people who moved to California and then later moved to their state bragging about California. The rest of the country wants California to float off into the ocean and sink. I’ve heard people are starting to leave our state too. They're moving to Arizona in droves. And with so many transplants TO California, many people end up marrying someone from another state and then moving back to that state. Though it may defy belief, Californians voted to let the state tax them more to 13.3% and they gave Democrats a supermajority in both houses while killing a ballot initiative that would have barred unions from automatically withholding money from worker paychecks for political spending. Just over 23,000 people made the move from California to Utah in 2016. 75% of people born in California stay in California. Now, that's happening with ex-Californians in other states. Known as the “Sin City Capital” of the US and a gambling mecca worldwide, many Californians are already familiar with Las Vegas. I'm moving to a different state soon for that same reason. For as long as California has existed, out-of-staters have moved here and driven up prices. Utah. 8. Californians hate America but refuse to leave. By using our Services or clicking I agree, you agree to our use of cookies. In One Chart No other state comes close to California in terms of total welfare spending Published: Nov. 28, 2017 at 3:59 p.m. Politics was a big reason. Cookies help us deliver our Services. The United States redrawn as 50 states with Equal Population, General U.S., 60 replies How do some states that are affluent live so much more modestly then much poorer states., General U.S., 16 replies Domestic migration 2000-2009 : the best states and the worst states, General U.S., 18 replies Here's how it's going. A good chunk of the well off but not rich Californian's I know send their kids to private schools because they had bad experiences with the public schools, even the highly ranked ones. I've never been to CA so I feel like my opinion is pretty uneducated, but I totally get it. So we are pretty used to transplants. Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! They move to low tax states in order to escape the high tax burden of California. Nothing California has ever done has helped it in any measurable way. It makes sense for people who want that small city life. Moving companies survey those moving as to why. Even in Montana and Washington. Anyhow, yes, some Californians do leave. Of the top 11 counties sending new residents to the Boise area, six were from other parts of Idaho, and only three — Riverside, San Bernardino and Orange — were from California. I find it odd that people hate Cali so much and move to another state and push Cali ideologies they hate in that state. Now folks do move to California: 501,023 arrived from other states in 2018. The problem with California is that it seems the people fleeing California continue vote for the same type of policies that ruined their previous state for them. Because they are different. So we are pretty used to transplants. In 2015, the state of California ranked 50th out of all 50 states in new business creation.. 3. Might not be hate as much as it is a kinda rivalry gone too far? Republicans don't have a majority of registered voters in a single congressional or legislative district. So, I guess that's my opinion. Californians love California. I just moved to Fort Collins from California and the first bit of advice I got here (from an ex-Californian) was: Change your license plates as soon as possible.. Coming from a state where 1 of 9 people in the US live, that advice suprises me. 1. Stupid gun laws. I wonder if there's any Anti-California sentiment there, New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, More posts from the AskAnAmerican community, AskAnAmerican: Learn about America, straight from the mouth of Americans, Press J to jump to the feed. They're 49th in education and have the highest wage disparency and unaffordable living conditions. People move, so I don’t really see the interest. I hate all the residents of Marion County, Alabama. Which is substantial. Western states taking in new Californians might be more anxious about change than they once were. Some forums can only be seen by registered members. California ranked dead last in Chief Executive magazine’s annual Best and Worst States for Business survey in 2016. 2. Remember that CA is the third largest state by land mass. As a side note, god bless Californistan. The state generally does well, and has a lot of influence. They were having floods, fires, and earthquakes all at the same time. Which is very different. When you said they were like "Different Californians" It reminds me of respectablity politics. r/AskReddit is the place to ask and answer thought-provoking questions. Thanks to strong economic recovery among wealthier Californians, state fiscal analysts expect a windfall between $15 and $26 billion. But he added, “Politics is what has really ruined the state.” When pollsters in 2012 asked American voters about whether they liked each state, California came in dead last. Utah offers a number of advantages over the Golden State: Utah is large enough to offer access to all the amenities of the big city, but with a decidedly small-town feel that’s appealing for people seeking a greater sense of community and belonging. RELATED: These Bay Area natives moved to red states in the Deep South. Economics is a surefire way to force people in or out of a state. As a … I get why people move there, and I get why they leave. And with the giant rats and ‘ancient’ diseases that proliferate in the garbage streets of the state, I bet 2019 will be worse. Experts say over the decade, over 150,000 people have left the state and that number is expected to climb as remote working options increase during the coronavirus pandemic. Just a short 3 hour drive from LA – many southern Californians who decide to move out of state end up in the city where they spend their weekends. It’s good. I heard they were moving to States like Idaho, because the cost of living was too high. The three other top destination states are California's neighbors Arizona, Nevada and Oregon. Usually the most voiced opinions are what’s taken as fact, when in reality I’m sure most people have no opinion towards California other than silly stereotypes. That's not true at all, about -100,000 net change per year, or 1 million loss 2007 to 2016. ET Gotta do what you gotta do. In fact, 19% of Nevada’s total population were born in California. And native Californians also only make up roughly 50% of California’s population due to the huge influx of people from other states. California tends to push it's own failing politics onto the entire rest of the country. Anyhow, yes, some Californians do leave. Since 2008, more than 700,000 Californians have moved to Texas, at first propelled by the Great Recession and later by their home state's increasingly untenable cost of living. With a state this large, even 25% moving away is apparently noteworthy to others. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts, Tucson, AZ --> San Diego, CA --> North Bay, MA->RI/Mo-BEEL did nothing wrong -- Silliest answer 2019. Eh, bitching because your property tax doubled in the last 5-10 years is a valid gripe. California is a pretty unique ecosystem after all and pretty different from the culture of other states. They were having floods, fires, and earthquakes all at the same time. It might also be because Cali is the test chamber/guinea pig for passing the more hard left state laws and a lot of other states with different political climates might not like that too much? Politics is ruining it for everyone. Apparently a lot of the school systems aren't that great. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. A lot of America is conservative. 75% of people born in California stay in California. They move there for, well a lot of reasons, but in the cases I've seen it's because of climate, the locals, the beach, the resort-like destinations all relatively close to eachother, the silicon valley and job opportunities it provides. I wouldn't wanna live there either, but I'd love to visit some day. Well meaning liberals can just be nasty as hell if they suspect even a little that you don't toe their party line on every issue, like surprisingly nasty. Berkeley. It makes sense, places like Boise are growing and need higher educated and tech employees. Yes, California almost lost 200,000 people in 2018. Economic opportunities is a big reason. It's a beautiful state. It’s very popular to hate Californians. But try replacing the noun “Californians” with “blacks” and see if the logic is still there: Oregonian: “Those damn blacks (Californians) keep moving into this state. Which is substantial. The other cities are San Diego, Sacramento, Boston and Las Vegas, which is located in a purplish state. Next sentence is off topic. There are more red states than blue, (but more blue in states with higher populations because of urban centers). California is typically seen as a hub of liberal viewpoints, media, and industry. The number of Americans who left California for other states had surpassed those from other states who moved here. You would think with the traffic they have to deal with they would know how to, but they’re just rude, inconsiderate, don’t stop when they should, and never indicate. California is a failed state. About 266,000 more people left California than moved in from other states from 2010 to 2015, U.S. Census data show. 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